# Kubernetes Podcast from Google: Pulumi, with Joe Duffy

**URL:** <https://discuss.kubernetes.io/t/kubernetes-podcast-from-google-pulumi-with-joe-duffy/8423>\
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**Created:** [October 22, 2019, 7:59pm UTC](https://discuss.kubernetes.io/t/kubernetes-podcast-from-google-pulumi-with-joe-duffy/8423 "2019-10-22T19:59:42Z")\
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[Joe Duffy](https://twitter.com/funcofjoe) is the founder and CEO of Pulumi, an open-source cloud development platform. He joins [Adam and Craig](https://kubernetespodcast.com/about) to explain why a general purpose programming language is a better tool for cloud infrastructure than a domain-specific language (or YAML), and how you can use Pulumi to provision cloud infrastructure and Kubernetes resources alike.

Do you have something cool to share? Some questions? Let us know:

- web: [kubernetespodcast.com](https://kubernetespodcast.com)
- mail: [kubernetespodcast@google.com](mailto:kubernetespodcast@google.com)
- twitter: [@kubernetespod](http://twitter.com/kubernetespod)

### Chatter of the week

- [DevOpsDays Auckland](https://devopsdays.org/events/2019-auckland/welcome/)
  - [Craig’s talk](https://devopsdays.org/events/2019-auckland/program/craig-box)

- [In which 32 bit apps don’t work on macOS Catalina](https://www.macrumors.com/guide/32-bit-mac-apps/)

### News of the week

- Dapr, OAM and Rudr
  - [Announcing Dapr, the Distributed Application Runtime](https://cloudblogs.microsoft.com/opensource/2019/10/16/announcing-dapr-open-source-project-build-microservice-applications/)
  - [Dapr homepage](http://dapr.io)
  - [Announcing the Open Application Model](https://cloudblogs.microsoft.com/opensource/2019/10/16/announcing-open-application-model/)
  - [Open App Model](https://openappmodel.io/)
  - [Ship without a Rudr’s like a ship without a Rudr’s like a ship without a Rudr](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NofWFKSMiM4)

- [Red Hat introduces OpenShift 4.2](https://blog.openshift.com/introducing-red-hat-openshift-4-2-developers-get-an-expanded-and-improved-toolbox/)
- [Goldilocks from Fairwinds](https://github.com/FairwindsOps/goldilocks/)
- [Ubuntu 19.10](https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-19-10-delivers-kubernetes-at-the-edge-multi-cloud-infrastructure-economics-and-an-integrated-ai-ml-developer-experience)
  - [Episode 60 with Mark Shuttleworth](https://kubernetespodcast.com/episode/060-ubuntu/)

- [Introducing SPIRE 0.8.2](https://scytale.io/blog/announcing-spire-0.8.2/)
  - [Episode 45 with Andrew Jessup](https://kubernetespodcast.com/episode/045-spiffe/)

- [Istio performance improvements noted by Pablo Moncada Isla](https://twitter.com/pmoncadaisla/status/1184395890435465216)
- [Graboid: first cryptojacking worm for Docker](https://unit42.paloaltonetworks.com/graboid-first-ever-cryptojacking-worm-found-in-images-on-docker-hub/) found by Unit42
- [Analysis of two Kubernetes vulnerabiltiies](https://blog.paloaltonetworks.com/2019/10/cloud-kubernetes-vulnerabilities/) by Palo Alto Networks
- [Harbor 1.9](https://www.cncf.io/blog/2019/10/17/harbor-1-9-tackles-multi-tenancy-with-key-enterprise-features/)
- [CNCF announces schedules for Forums in Seoul and Sydney](https://www.cncf.io/announcement/2019/10/17/cloud-native-computing-foundation-announces-schedule-for-kubernetes-forums-in-seoul-and-sydney/)
- [Container Platform Networking at Cruise](https://medium.com/cruise/container-platform-networking-kubernetes-e888a07407ab) by Karl Isenberg and Buck Wallander
- [Sugarkube and cattle clusters](https://www.sugarkube.io/blog/2019-10-16-your-kubernetes-clusters-should-be-ephemeral-too/)

### Links from the interview

- [Pulumi](https://pulumi.com)
- [Joe Duffy’s blog](http://joeduffyblog.com/):
  - [Hello, Pulumi!](http://joeduffyblog.com/2018/06/18/hello-pulumi/)
  - [Journey to Pulumi 1.0](http://joeduffyblog.com/2019/09/05/journey-to-pulumi-1-0/)

- [Comparisons vs other platforms](https://www.pulumi.com/docs/intro/vs/)
- [$ for enterprises](https://www.pulumi.com/pricing/) and [free community edition](https://www.pulumi.com/pricing/#community-edition)
- [Pulumi on GitHub](https://github.com/pulumi)
- [Joe Duffy](https://twitter.com/funcofjoe) and [Pulumi](https://twitter.com/PulumiCorp) on Twitter

Original Source: [https://kubernetespodcast.com/episode/076-pulumi/](https://kubernetespodcast.com/episode/076-pulumi/)